Wichi Dude's posting of Helping Out elicited comments--each from within our family. My latest comment grew so long that I took pity on WD and Bogie by posting it here, in my own space.
Yes, Hunky Husband flew as navigator (and was offered a job doing it full time) on B-52s back in the 1960s and early 1970s. However, in a car, he doesn't have an MD-1 Astrotracker or any other of the goodies that he used on the airplane. Yes, you are correct that he uses his GPS. However, I doubt that he has ever lost a car in a parking lot. He is too organized to do that!
Younger Brother also worked with aircraft navigation systems; but, the one time that I asked him to fly along with me (delivering a Cessna 152), it didn't work out so well. The weather was marginal, I needed to sneak through a pass in the mountains in central California during marginal weather, the airplane was anything but "high performance" and it was not well-equipped for instrument flying (what it did have was not compatible with the navigation systems that were on the ground in that area). Since Younger Brother lived, and had been on flights in the area, I thought his familiarity with the pass would be a plus--and it was. We did get through the pass, at which he was quite helpful; but asking him to keep track of our ground track once we exited the pass was a lost cause. Again, he didn't have the equipment that he was accustomed to and didn't really know how to track us on a sectional chart.
Pardon me if the following tale has been posted somewhere, before. I believe that it has, but don't recall where. The worst I ever misplaced a car was at an LAX parking lot (Parking Lot C, for those familiar with LAX). I was working at Edwards AFB and had returned from spending the year-end holidays at home in Albuquerque. Arriving at the parking lot at about Midnight, I went to the place where I remembered having parked. Not only was my car not there, but the slot was marked as no-parking. I went to the security office and called the people who were in charge of towing to see if they had my car. Nope. After a while, a security guard offered to drive me around the (rather large) parking lot. Of course, we eventually found my little Mazda 626--right where I had left it.
Eventually, I recalled what had happened: I realized that the remembered slot was the first slot that I had chosen for parking. But, the first slot was not allowed parking and I had picked out a second slot in a nearby row. For some reason, I had decided not to park in the second slot (or maybe someone beat me to it). The car was parked in a third slot that was some distance from the first two--and I had failed to write down the location as I normally did. After a ten-day absence, it was easy for me to fail to recall the details. It was about 3:00 AM by the time I reached my apartment in Lancaster. Bummer!
Since that was when I was your age, WD, I suspect that age had nothing to do with it! (I'm just absent minded.)
I understand the absent-minded-ness. That is why I always pick a familiar looking landmark when parking.
As far as the arena goes, it is extremely easy to get turned around inside of it. And as all sides look much like the others, inside and out, losing your vehicle is not difficult. In the years of going to shows there, I've watched a fair amount of people wander around.
And thanks for the clarification on the navagator info. I was starting to doubt myself after Bogies comment. I mean, she SHOULD know.
Umm, question: that wouldn't have been Wolf Creek Pass you were flying through would it? Or is that in CO.?
Posted by: Wichi Dude | November 25, 2005 at 10:21 AM
I parked early one morning at Disneyland and my kids and I rushed off to see the Magic Kingdom forgetting to double check the lot I parked in. Late that night, when we were leaving, I drew a complete blank. That is one heck of a large parking lot to drag two tired kids through and I felt like we would never find the car. Finally we did, but talk about exhaustion!
Posted by: Maria | November 25, 2005 at 01:31 PM
WD--Wolf Creek Pass is, indeed, in Colorado. I'm not sure about the name of the California pass (Stephen's?), but Lake Isabella is in it.
Maria--Yikes! Disneyland has a huge amount of parking. That could have been your fitness outing for the month!
Maria, you should know the name of the pass that I took in trying to fly from Inyokern to Monterey. (We actually landed in Fresno because Monterey was fogged in and lacked the Instrument Landing System that the airplane was equipped to perform.)
Posted by: Cop Car | November 26, 2005 at 08:06 AM
Oh man....I can't imagine having to look through the lots at Disneyland to find my car! I'd be sitting at the side of the road sobbing by then.
I'm the person who is in charge of writing down the parking space when we hit a big lot like that. After all, I'M the one who will be really upset if we can't find the car, so it seems fair.
As for navigating, I've seen my first car with the computerized map and directions. One of our friends has a Caddy with the screen in the dash. I do believe that I'd be up for a crash, trying to follow the map and drive at the same time.
Posted by: Buffy | December 02, 2005 at 10:17 AM
Buffy--I had started to write in the posting about HH's using a GPS that, using a GPS is as dangerous as trying to drive while talking on a telephone. He terrifies me when I am in the car!
Posted by: Cop Car | December 03, 2005 at 08:23 AM
I'm not surprised. While I was fascinated to see the directions and watch the screen, if we had all not known how to get where we were going, I would have been MUCH more nervous. As it was, the distraction from the road concerned me.
I've noticed that the act of typing a phone number into a cell phone is too great a distraction from the road. Trying to read this screen while you were in motion would be even worse.
In Chicago, they have passed a law banning hands on cell phone use, so people are trying to get around that by connecting to Onstar and having them do the dialing. I don't think it's just the "hands-on" aspect they need to be worried about. Driving in Chicago and dividing your attention with a phone call could be lethal. Furthermore, the On-star commercial talks about the driver being able to keep his hands at the "10 and 2" position of the steering wheel, which is outdated information. If you have air bags, you are instructed to hold the wheel lower. Ban it, I say! (hopping off the soap box)
Posted by: buffy | December 03, 2005 at 11:35 PM
Buffy--I agree. It is the mental concentration involved in the tasks of dialing, carrying on a conversation, stowing equipment, interpreting instructions, etcetera that is the real threat to safe driving. The in-dash instruction screens should be illegal--just as it is (in most places) to have a TV screen viewable by the driver. Or, we could certify drivers for use of specific equipments.
The training regime for driving a car is not the same as that for flying an airplane. Airplanes have been equipped with multi-function screens, for display of information and input of instructions to the navigation/control systems, for 20-30 years. However, pilots receive extensive training in use of the equipment. As it is in an airplane, HUD (heads up display) system would be a better alternative in a ground vehicle. But, regardless of whether a driver wishes to use a screen display or a HUD, s/he should be trained--extensively. Training in systems use (such as pilots must continue to take throughout their flying careers) could minimize the amount of conscious attention required to operate them, making system use much safer.
Drivers: When was your last driving lesson? (Mine was 18 months ago.) Pilots: When was your last flight/ground lesson? (Mine was about 12 months before I made, what turned out to be, my last flight as a pilot.) I'm willing to wager that the pilots have had a lot more current training than the auto drivers have had.
Aside: We really need to concentrate on mass transit in the USA to minimize the number of private vehicles on the roads and highways. Too much of our public wealth is spent on highway and safety systems. If we spent the dollars on mass transit, rather than highways, I'm thinking that fares could be entirely reasonable if not non-existent. Too much of our egos is wrapped up in being able to go wherever we wish, whenever we wish. We are too lazy or unthinking to take the training required to make/keep us safe drivers. We need to get a clue!
Posted by: Cop Car | December 04, 2005 at 09:30 AM